It’s day two of opening arguments in the impeachment trial of President Donald Trump.

Quoting the country’s Founding Fathers and framers, House impeachment managers focused Thursday’s proceedings on Trump’s alleged abuse of power, one of two charges he is facing, the other being obstruction of Congress.

Are House Democrats persuading Republican senators to ask for witnesses like former national security adviser John Bolton?

And what might the rebuttal from the president’s lawyers look like?

Joining us with his take on the impeachment trial so far isDavid Franklin, who teaches constitutional law at DePaul University College of Law. He served as Illinois solicitor general from 2016 to 2019 and clerked for Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg in 1999 and 2000.

Please note: We had hoped to be joined by an attorney critical of the impeachment process and had invited Brian Murray,an attorney with the firm Rathje Woodard, who teaches complex litigation at the University of Chicago Law School and clerked for Justice Antonin Scalia in 2002 and 2003. Murry was not able to join the conversation.